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Chris Wheal

Try to be a bit more constructive.

The union is its members. If your workplace has no ULR - why don't you volunteer? You'd get loads of support from the NUJ Training department.If you won't volunteer, is it fair to moan that no-one else has either?

It would be great to have people interested in training getting active and pushing the agenda, though, to be fair, your analysis of our training provision confused me.

The courses listed include:

Dreamweaver Introduction
Internet Research
On-line Publishing
Podcasting for Print Journalists
Setting up a Blog
Video Blogging for Print Journalists
Writing for the Web

We will be adding to those shortly.

When you say "Right now the job of the union should be to help members upskill for digital publishing" tell us what courses you think we currently don't but should offer, the content and expected learning outcomes.

Don't bother doing it on a blog; you can phone the training department and tell them (politely). Members coming to us with ideas is how all our courses start.

Finally, we do work in partnership with employers. I recently ran a writing for the web course for Informa, for example, and we are in talks about providing more training to their journalists.

So, you not out of step with the current NUJ thinking. I am sorry your efforts to get in touch with us were not answered (I assume you did ask to speak to someone about training before writing this?)

Chris Wheal
Chair, NUJ Professional Training Committee

Martin

Hi Chris

Thanks for your comment and thanks for clarifying what training the NUJ provides.

I think my point was more to do with standing back and looking at the importance of training through a time of change.

My post was not intended to be a moan - far from it, I think this whole area is a big opportunity for the union.

I am involved in training at RBI and would be happy to share my views with you about what training should be provided for journalists.

In terms of me writing my views on my blog rather than calling in - I'm afraid this is just one of many ways I communicate what i am thinking. My blog is great place to have a conversation and i am pleased you came here to discuss what I have written.

Online tools enable journalists to be far more transparent - it's what our readers expect. I'd expect all journalists to be communicating using all tools available, not just the phone.

The training at Informa sounds interesting. Is there a case study showing how that worked, was funded etc?

I'll get my thoughts across to you shortly.

Martin Cloake

Martin,

I'm in the process of trying to find a date to come and see Karl Schneider for a look at how the production systems work at RBI, so it might be worth me, you and Chris meeting to discuss what we can do. The NUJ's training dept is very proactive and Chris and I have both delivered courses for it. Drop me an email at martincloake@mac.com

Martin

Sounds good, Martin. I'll drop you an email.

Chris Wheal

Good idea Martin (or is that Martins?).

Karl took my job at Electronics Weekly when I left Reed in 1989.

It would be good to catch up.

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